The problem is not that America lacks energy resources.
The problem is that we keep treating a long-horizon infrastructure challenge like a short-term political argument.
In this conversation, Joshua Bice helps put a finer point on something Project Vanguard keeps coming back to: energy security is national security. Not as a bumper sticker. As a practical reality.
When Josh talks about the projects being built right now, he is not describing some clean-vs-conventional fantasy debate. He is describing large, real-world resiliency plays where natural gas, storage, renewables, interconnection, regulation, and industrial load growth are all colliding at once. That is especially true as AI drives bigger and more power-hungry facilities into the system.
The sharpest turn in the episode comes when the conversation moves from engineering to investment.
Josh’s point is simple: scared money does not invest. If policy swings every election cycle, capital gets cautious, timelines stretch, and the country loses ground on the very infrastructure it says it wants to build. That is not just a market problem. It is a national strength problem.
That is also where the veteran piece matters.
Kevin and Josh get at something bigger than workforce stats. Veterans tend to understand operational discipline, mission focus, risk mitigation, and long-term responsibility. In an industry that runs on reliability and trust, that matters. Project Vanguard’s broader case is that veterans are not just a hiring pool. They are credible messengers for a more grounded energy conversation.
A few threads run through this one:
energy abundance without purity politics
policy consistency as a condition for serious investment
veteran credibility as an asset in public persuasion
The unresolved question hanging over the episode is the right one: can the country build a stable framework before politics keeps chasing capital off the field?
Timestamps
00:00 - Introduction
01:37 - Project Vanguard Growth
07:52 - Energy Underground in Houston
12:50 - What Energy Security Means
14:08 - Why Veterans Fit Energy
17:27 - Partisanship and Policy Risk
18:38 - Veterans as Trusted Voices
19:39 - Josh’s Enlistment Story
23:05 - Getting Out and Finding Direction
23:52 - Breaking Into Energy in Latin America
31:11 - Follow-Through, Trust, and Reputation
32:39 - Advice for Veterans Entering Energy
37:05 - Final Thoughts and Outro
Resources
People & Organizations
Josh Bice
Kevin Doffing (LinkedIn)
Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (Website)
North American Electric Reliability Corporation (Website)
Company & Industry News
rPlus Energies Acquires 900 MW of Solar and Storage Projects in Ada County, Idaho
US utilities scale up grid-boosting tech to meet surging demand
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